Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
If you're of the school of "better too much than too little" I certainly wouldn't go any HIGHER than 5% more than factory recommendations on torque, with or without the anti-sieze on the threads. But of course the threads of nut and axle should not have any oil, grease, broken off threads, metal shavings, or galling.
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Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
I wasn't saying you should do higher than factory specs. They're the ones who did the studies on metal properties, thread pitch, etc. I'm saying do factory specs, not "reduce the torque by 50% because of the lubricating properties of the anti seize."
But then I torqued my lug nuts with a 2' breaker bar on Saturday. Oops. Mechanical advantage is an amazing thing.
Thanks,
~Patrick
But then I torqued my lug nuts with a 2' breaker bar on Saturday. Oops. Mechanical advantage is an amazing thing.
Thanks,
~Patrick
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2016 Beta 300RR :: 2006 Suzuki DRZ400SM
1975 Harley FXE1200
Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
You forgot to mention the 12" cheater you used on the breaker bar.
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Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
Here's what Bostik has to say concerning their regular grade Never Seez.
If you wanna dig a little further here's a good start. You must keep in mind there are rolling elements in the axle equation and over tightening a ball bearing will lead to disaster.
Personal testing and experience has given me to use 50% on axles backed up with .032" stainless safety wire. But I use High Nickel Bostik which contains graphite in addition to nickel.Bostik wrote:How Never-Seez Regular Grade Affects Torque:
Compared to unlubricated fasteners, the use of Never-Seez “Regular-Grade” can be viewed 2 ways:
(1) It provides up to 30% MORE clamping force when applying the SAME amount of torque!
(2) It provides the SAME clamping force when applying up to 30% LESS torque!
IMPORTANT!
• In order to best represent typical torque reduction values, Bostik references a “K-Factor” for unlubricated carbon steel fasteners of 0.185.
• Proper torque is critical and, if not clearly understood, users may over-torque their fasteners which may lead to costly damage.
BOSTIK is not liable for any damages incurred. Refer to the Bostik standard warranty for details
If you wanna dig a little further here's a good start. You must keep in mind there are rolling elements in the axle equation and over tightening a ball bearing will lead to disaster.
Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
Hm. Interesting. On a related note, from a google search about "torque when using antisieze" it looks like I want to get C5A.
Thanks,
~Patrick
Thanks,
~Patrick
2003 Triumph Sprint ST :: 2004 Suzuki SV650R
2016 Beta 300RR :: 2006 Suzuki DRZ400SM
1975 Harley FXE1200
2016 Beta 300RR :: 2006 Suzuki DRZ400SM
1975 Harley FXE1200
Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
C5A, huh? that is interesting but what does it have to do with axle nuts?
KTM 450 EXC mostly
Member AMA, PaTRA, MD OHV Alliance, trying to join R&T
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Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
I was thinking the same thing!BillyGoat wrote:C5A, huh? that is interesting but what does it have to do with axle nuts?
Ken
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Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
Me threeKyler wrote:I was thinking the same thing!BillyGoat wrote:C5A, huh? that is interesting but what does it have to do with axle nuts?
DAMN military types.
Bruce
Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
I guess you send the C5A to "liberate" the axle nut?
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Re: Friggin KTM axle cap nuts
Heat + vice grips+ BFH+ my body weight= success.
Now time for brakes, tires and bearings.
Now time for brakes, tires and bearings.
Bruce
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