DAMN Riders - No rules, Just ride!

Boom Boom wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:08 am What is that 4x4 tractor with a bucket for?

They are going to 1x because its cheaper. It doesn't solve the cross chaining problems (though the new thinner chains help that.) You also may still need to run a front chain guide. IME, those are more fiddly than a derailleur. Kid just lost his guide somewhere :( For all the years I've ridden mtbs, rear derailleur problems are 10x+ more common.
One real advantage that a 1x does have is you can tuck the rear tire closer to the seat post which will shorten the wheelbase if using 27.5" or 29" tires on the smaller frames.

Firebolter wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:59 am

Bucho wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:24 pm Pretty cool Stephen. I was riding Sam's SurRon the other week. His is feeling much better with full sized wheels and a proper trials tire on the rear. I didn't ride a super hard trail, but it felt pretty good just riding around on some of the easier stuff.
I like to hear about electrics getting better. I appreciate guys like you and Sam fine tuning this product. So maybe in a few years I may buy a fixed one.

I rode Dave's Alta when we were at Brown Mountain 2 weeks ago and it is a little weird! He and I swapped bikes, he took the 300 and I broke off with the Alta and worked my way back to camp at 28 miles in to the ride. The one shortcoming I see is how (and I know it is controller specific and needs to be dialed in) the power is applied. On step ups, slick rocky or rooted ledges, you can't "modulate" the throttle like you can on a typical gas bike. It is kinda on and off and that makes it a bit tough on those kinda obstacles. That makes it harder when you get to the step kinda stuff. Dave did 32 miles at Brown and had 25% battery when I got back to camp. Overall if they could design the controllers to be more gradual with the application of the torque and maybe make some kind of "electronic" clutch to be able to feather power, that would be awesome.

Marylander wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:33 pm Ken, you've probably mentioned this before but, what's the garage floor coating and are you happy with it? I'm moving up to a ~10 bike garage from a 4 bike garage next year and think I may do epoxy or something...

gots_a_sol wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:01 pm

They are going to 1x because its cheaper. It doesn't solve the cross chaining problems (though the new thinner chains help that.) You also may still need to run a front chain guide. IME, those are more fiddly than a derailleur. Kid just lost his guide somewhere :( For all the years I've ridden mtbs, rear derailleur problems are 10x+ more common.
One real advantage that a 1x does have is you can tuck the rear tire closer to the seat post which will shorten the wheelbase if using 27.5" or 29" tires on the smaller frames.

Good points. Weight reduction probably factors in too. Also less to think about while on the trail.

My Santa Cruz is 1x12 with sram bits and I havent dropped a chain on it yet with no front guide, which will now happen on the next ride

Rut Row wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:56 pm I used Tri-State Concrete Coatings from Middletown - http://www.tsconcretecoatings.com/ - had the Acid Staining followed by Epoxy / Urethane sealer. No chips. This was the cheapest way to get the floor done and I don't need no steekin; chips!

I'm very happy with it. I'm amazed how much less dust I have; the shop is much cleaner. Good investment IMHO.