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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by YAMPOL » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:42 am

Ok, here is one thing I read about a MVA tagged vehicle. You do not need an ORV sticker, but you must have a hunting or fishing license???? Why?? I don't do either. Another question for them. Thanks.
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by Rut Row » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:19 pm

YAMPOL wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:42 am
Ok, here is one thing I read about a MVA tagged vehicle. You do not need an ORV sticker, but you must have a hunting or fishing license???? Why?? I don't do either. Another question for them. Thanks.
where are you reading that? This is nearly the same as Green Ridge was.

"Users must have a registered ORV with the Department of Natural Resources, or a MVA-tagged vehicle that is suitable for off-road use. "
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by YAMPOL » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:45 pm

When you look at the registered ORV instructions. It says:

ORV Registration Requirements



Two people riding ATV's on the grass.An ORV is defined as a motorized vehicle designed for or capable of cross-country travel on land, water, snow, ice, marsh, swampland or other natural terrain. Off-road vehicles include a four-wheel drive or low pressure tire vehicle; an automobile; a truck; a motorcycle and related two-wheel vehicles; an amphibious machine; a ground effect or air cushion vehicle; a snowmobile; and a golf cart.

Vehicles registered with the MVA are exempt from purchasing the off-road vehicle permit when using Department of Natural Resources public lands as long as the operator is in possession of a valid Maryland hunting or fishing license.


I have no problem getting an ORV sticker for the dualsport. Just a little confusing.
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by Rut Row » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:55 pm

YAMPOL wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:45 pm
When you look at the registered ORV instructions. It says:

ORV Registration Requirements



Two people riding ATV's on the grass.An ORV is defined as a motorized vehicle designed for or capable of cross-country travel on land, water, snow, ice, marsh, swampland or other natural terrain. Off-road vehicles include a four-wheel drive or low pressure tire vehicle; an automobile; a truck; a motorcycle and related two-wheel vehicles; an amphibious machine; a ground effect or air cushion vehicle; a snowmobile; and a golf cart.

Vehicles registered with the MVA are exempt from purchasing the off-road vehicle permit when using Department of Natural Resources public lands as long as the operator is in possession of a valid Maryland hunting or fishing license.


I have no problem getting an ORV sticker for the dualsport. Just a little confusing.
we have never done that in the past. When I was talking with the DNR muckety-mucks they said same as Green Ridge. I'll ckeck with them to make sure there hasn't been a change.
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by Laoch » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:57 pm

Rut Row wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:42 am
well, I think it could be clearer but you have to get a "pass" aka reservation online. If you need parking--meaning you are a day-use person and towing/hauling your bike--you need a parking reservation as well. This is new "There is no limit on Day Use reservations without parking. " I read this as if you ride your dual-sport bike there you just need a day-use reservation. I'll confirm that with DNR.
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Well....I'll be blunt- that's fucked up. All the work you guys did to make this happen and DNR can't just make a big ass parking lot? Reserve a parking spot and get a day use reservation :screwy:
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by Rut Row » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:48 pm

dirtygrunt wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:57 pm
Rut Row wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:42 am
well, I think it could be clearer but you have to get a "pass" aka reservation online. If you need parking--meaning you are a day-use person and towing/hauling your bike--you need a parking reservation as well. This is new "There is no limit on Day Use reservations without parking. " I read this as if you ride your dual-sport bike there you just need a day-use reservation. I'll confirm that with DNR.
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Well....I'll be blunt- that's fucked up. All the work you guys did to make this happen and DNR can't just make a big ass parking lot? Reserve a parking spot and get a day use reservation :screwy:
there is a guy who lives next to the trail and I suspect he's going to make a killing on cheap parking. He also has 3 cabins.
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by Rut Row » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:48 pm

YAMPOL wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:45 pm
When you look at the registered ORV instructions. It says:

ORV Registration Requirements



Two people riding ATV's on the grass.An ORV is defined as a motorized vehicle designed for or capable of cross-country travel on land, water, snow, ice, marsh, swampland or other natural terrain. Off-road vehicles include a four-wheel drive or low pressure tire vehicle; an automobile; a truck; a motorcycle and related two-wheel vehicles; an amphibious machine; a ground effect or air cushion vehicle; a snowmobile; and a golf cart.

Vehicles registered with the MVA are exempt from purchasing the off-road vehicle permit when using Department of Natural Resources public lands as long as the operator is in possession of a valid Maryland hunting or fishing license.


I have no problem getting an ORV sticker for the dualsport. Just a little confusing.
got a response from DNR. The website isn't current. The current statute says
.03 Registration and Licensing Requirements for Operating ORVs on Designated Areas.

A. Restrictions.

(4) The ORV shall be registered annually with the:

(a) Department and display a registration sticker in accordance with the requirements of this regulation; or

(b) Motor Vehicle Administration as a licensed motor vehicle for on-road use.
no requirement for a hunting or fishing license.
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by Bucho » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:12 pm

dirtygrunt wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:57 pm


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Well....I'll be blunt- that's fucked up. All the work you guys did to make this happen and DNR can't just make a big ass parking lot? Reserve a parking spot and get a day use reservation :screwy:

Yes, I'll agree with you.

I'd like to look into this more. Since all my bikes are tagged/dualsports, I wonder if there is somewhere to park my van nearby? Then riding there should just be the cost of gas money.
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by Rut Row » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:37 am

Bucho wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:12 pm
I'd like to look into this more. Since all my bikes are tagged/dualsports, I wonder if there is somewhere to park my van nearby? Then riding there should just be the cost of gas money.
I'm 90% certain that the farm on the southeast side will have a parking lot. He is trying to get direct access from his farm to the trail too.
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Re: Savage River Trail Progress

Post by YAMPOL » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:04 am

Thanks for getting an answer on the licensing and what is required.
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