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Re: ADV Bike weight comparison chart

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:09 am
by Firebolter
juddspaintballs wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:25 pm
Bucho wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:32 pm bugger, those are heavy. I might have to keep my crappy old Suzuki thumper...
It's all about how they carry the weight, though. Newer designs are finally putting fuel and motor weight lower on the machine and a good suspension really makes a difference.
Exactly. The 800 GSA was a total top heavy pig and had the worst suspension ever. It was softer than my Z125 and I am not exaggerating! That thing was so sketchy, I took it off road once and then never again. The 790R and T700 are both getting great reviews for handling and trail manners, feeling lighter than they are. I have owned many BMW's and they have A LONG WAY TO GO, to be in the same ballpark.

Re: ADV Bike weight comparison chart

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:07 pm
by repoe3
Firebolter wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:30 pm BMW (and I have owned a few) are really over priced and not as great as their rep is. pretty reliable bikes, but room for ALOT of improvement.
Might I introduce you to the S1000XR...

In all seriousness, that was the only reason I bought another BMW vs. a Ducati Multistrada. The thing is a rocket ship. And I wholehearted recognize it isn't the classic BMW architecture, suspension, or drivetrain.

Though I most certainly wouldn't go adventuring on mine...which reminds me of a rolling joke I have about adventuring. Any time the rider stands while riding, you are officially adventuring. Makes for great photo ops.

Re: ADV Bike weight comparison chart

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:59 pm
by smdub
repoe3 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:07 pmAny time the rider stands while riding
My buddy Dan calls them Gophers. Not used to look for danger at Starbucks but to attract attention on their eternal quest for a latte.

Re: ADV Bike weight comparison chart

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:56 am
by Twist
juddspaintballs wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:25 pm
Bucho wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:32 pm bugger, those are heavy. I might have to keep my crappy old Suzuki thumper...


It's all about how they carry the weight, though. Newer designs are finally putting fuel and motor weight lower on the machine and a good suspension really makes a difference.
True that. The big bikeapotomus BMWs carry their weight down low with the opposed twin and the weight really kind of disappears until you're picking it up from a dirt nap. But even then, my 1200GS is much easier to pick up than the KLR I rode on the TAT. Most bikes lay down completely flat but the 1200/1250 BMWs will easily rock up onto the crash bars at the cylinder heads. That makes it really easy to turn around with your back to the bike and lift it with your legs. One look at my GS and you can immediately see that it's be using the engine guards pretty regularly :)

Re: ADV Bike weight comparison chart

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:14 am
by Junior
I`d like to see this in a 250 to 650 range. Old and new.