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Nice chart with the weights of all of the main manufacturers mid size and large ADV bikes. T7 looking pretty good Junior!

W/ the CB500 not sure why they leave the 690R off the list.
To be objective (which these comparisons are never really trying to be), they'd calculate what they'd weigh w/ equivalent fuel loads. The tanks on some are literally twice the size of others. The 1250GSA is 16.5# heavier due to the extra 10L of fuel it can carry over the plain GS. That would narrow the gap between those two by almost half. The 790R w/ the same fuel as a T7 cuts their gap by 2/3.

I forgot to mention these are DRY weights. I don't compare wet numbers as like you said, fuel capacity is 1-2gal different between some. That 850GS may weigh 538 but it carries the weight way up high and the suspension is CRAP, mush even for the street. BMW (and I have owned a few) are really over priced and not as great as their rep is. pretty reliable bikes, but room for ALOT of improvement. My 2014 F800ADV was the worst bike I have bought IRT overall capability. Crap suspension and buzzy motor.

Some of those are WET weights for sure. For example: 790R (416# dry) & T7 (users are measuring ~450# wet.) The CB500X is likely wet as well. I'm not as familiar w/ the big bikes to know.
Edit: The Africa Twin weights are also wet. So the 4 out of 4 I checked are wet weights. I'm guessing the remainder are too?
Edit2: The new 2020 AT are 524(std)&553(dct) wet. So the figures in the graph seem to match the older model wet or the new one dry?

I had a 690sm at one point. It felt a lot like a DRZ as far as weight, just had a lot more GIDDY UP than a DRZ.

Jason

Jtrobb wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:51 pm I had a 690sm at one point. It felt a lot like a DRZ as far as weight, just had a lot more GIDDY UP than a DRZ.

The generally accepted new wet weight of a DRZ400S is 317#. I never weighed mine. The newer 2019+ 690R is 322# dry and ~350# wet.

The 701 enduro LR (model with the 6.6 gal tank) is supposed to be coming here. That'd make a decent adv bike, I think. The front tank is kind of hideous but would put a lot of weight on the front wheel, which seems like it'd be a good thing as my enduro r front end can go kind of nuts if I whack the throttle open at speed.

bugger, those are heavy. I might have to keep my crappy old Suzuki thumper...

I wish they would do a wet weight caparison at end of handle bar with the bike leaned over approx 20degrees, to inform of top heaviness ratio. Maybe I'm just getting old & wimpy.

Bucho wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:32 pm bugger, those are heavy. I might have to keep my crappy old Suzuki thumper...

It's all about how they carry the weight, though. Newer designs are finally putting fuel and motor weight lower on the machine and a good suspension really makes a difference.