Beta Oil Injection

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Beta Oil Injection

Post by Rut Row » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:14 am

Over on the Beta forums there are a lot of threads about guys removing the oil injection. Many cite seized motors. I'm wondering how pervasive the issue is. Meaning those that experience it complain but those that don't rarely post.

What are your experiences?
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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by trialsrider » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:42 am

Rut Row wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:14 am
Over on the Beta forums there are a lot of threads about guys removing the oil injection. Many cite seized motors. I'm wondering how pervasive the issue is. Meaning those that experience it complain but those that don't rarely post.

What are your experiences?
This should not be a problem for you given your riding habits. No oil required sitting in garage or shed. :killingme:
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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by Rut Row » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:43 pm

trialsrider wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:42 am
Rut Row wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:14 am
Over on the Beta forums there are a lot of threads about guys removing the oil injection. Many cite seized motors. I'm wondering how pervasive the issue is. Meaning those that experience it complain but those that don't rarely post.

What are your experiences?
This should not be a problem for you given your riding habits. No oil required sitting in garage or shed. :killingme:
cold...COLD I SAY! :frustrated:

sadly true :angel:

hope to change that next year :deal:
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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by Skinny-J » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:53 pm

trialsrider wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:42 am
Rut Row wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:14 am

What are your experiences?
This should not be a problem for you given your riding habits. No oil required sitting in garage or shed. :killingme:
Be careful Kettle....

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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by trialsrider » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:25 pm

Skinny-J wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:53 pm
trialsrider wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:42 am
Rut Row wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:14 am

What are your experiences?
This should not be a problem for you given your riding habits. No oil required sitting in garage or shed. :killingme:
Be careful Kettle....
So true :dry: I guess it takes one to know one :lol2:

Now back to Ken's question. Sorry for the detour Ken.
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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by Marylander » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:25 pm

I haven't had any issues with mine but I don't have big hours on the bike yet. I will admit to a bit of uneasiness when reading about the failures. The oil injection is a convenience but wasn't a selling point for me.

I never considered pre-mixing a hassle although, with my scatterbrain, I have wondered a few times if I ever added oil to the gas. I have definitely put double oil in before. :shrug:

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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by Wingfixer » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:59 pm

A little over 100 trouble few hours so far (where's that knocking on wood emoticon? ). And you all know how gentle I am on equipment..... :angel:

I plan to do at top this winter. It should have 120+ on it by then, so over double the recommended overhaul interval. I'll be sure to post my findings here.
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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by Boom Boom » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:33 pm

Do not have any facts to offer but do know you must run a proper injector approved oil.
I must admit the time that I owned the Cross Trainer I was keeping an eye on that oil line to make sure it had oil in it and did catch once where a stick had caught the line and could have easily broken it. For more common DS trail riding I would assume it to be the future and next step will be injection. All to make a cleaner 2 stroke keeping the euro folks happy.
I personally do not like giving up the ability to adjust my oil ratios per conditions or be fixed using certain oils.
My understanding of pushing the oil injection is the bike can be at low oil ratios at lower RPM thus less smoke...the concept is great, idiot proof, probably not.
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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by Wingfixer » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:37 pm

I get what you're saying, and I do have a few worries about the system. Mostly that the line could be pulled/broken off and your first indication would be a seized engine. Even if the pump failed and it turned on that tiny little yellow light the odds of me seeing it before it was too late are slim. I do run the recommended Motul oil injection oil, it is pricey but this thing uses so little of it I don't mind.
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Re: Beta Oil Injection

Post by Rut Row » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:29 am

Wingfixer wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:59 pm
A little over 100 trouble few hours so far (where's that knocking on wood emoticon? ). And you all know how gentle I am on equipment..... :angel:

I plan to do at top this winter. It should have 120+ on it by then, so over double the recommended overhaul interval. I'll be sure to post my findings here.
I'd like to watch/help/pass beers when you do the top to see what is involved.
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