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Bet his family is pissed.
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Motorcyclist dies while protesting helmet law
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Darwin at work.
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I have zero sympathy for that guy.
At the end of the article ABATE says they want to have a memorial for an individual who rode for freedom and risked everything for freedom. I think that is kind of insulting to the memories of people who have fought for freedom, not just some idiot who was too cool to wear a helmet.
At the end of the article ABATE says they want to have a memorial for an individual who rode for freedom and risked everything for freedom. I think that is kind of insulting to the memories of people who have fought for freedom, not just some idiot who was too cool to wear a helmet.
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see http://www.watoday.com.au/world/motorcy ... rom=smh_ft
what a lame excuse - if anything, it reinforces the need to be wearing a helmet."An officer of my group said there may have been equipment difficulties for the rider," he said. "Apparently he was riding a motorcycle that wasn't his usual one. Some vehicles have different quirks."
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Well Said - Couldn't Agree MoreBucho wrote:I have zero sympathy for that guy.
At the end of the article ABATE says they want to have a memorial for an individual who rode for freedom and risked everything for freedom. I think that is kind of insulting to the memories of people who have fought for freedom, not just some idiot who was too cool to wear a helmet.
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I have no sympathy for him either.
That being said, I don't like having a nanny government. Riding with or without a helmet should be a person's choice. I even put a helmet on even when riding the KLX from the back yard into the front yard.
That being said, I don't like having a nanny government. Riding with or without a helmet should be a person's choice. I even put a helmet on even when riding the KLX from the back yard into the front yard.
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CapoGreg wrote:I have no sympathy for him either.
That being said, I don't like having a nanny government. Riding with or without a helmet should be a person's choice. I even put a helmet on even when riding the KLX from the back yard into the front yard.
I kind of agree w/ you, I'm not a big fan of any of the laws that "save you from yourself". I think its silly for all the people in helmet law states who wear the totally useless beanie helmets. They might as well not wear anything. If you don't want to wear a helmet then don't wear a helmet.
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I have alot of trouble accepting the need for a nanny state. that said, I ride with my helemt no matter where I am because it will save my life hopefully when/if I get in an accident.
I do not like big brother and frankly resent his constant and ever growing eye of "concern" for our well being.
I do not like big brother and frankly resent his constant and ever growing eye of "concern" for our well being.
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No sympathy - he made his choice..... How that work for ya....
I don't want helmet laws - but Im in the AGATT crowd.... That said - ABATE imho does more harm that good for motorcycle images unless they changed their events... In the mid 90s when I started riding (I'm old
) the prime spot to hang out at their events was the "BEER" truck.... The joke at the time was ABATE stood for Alcoholic Beverages At The Event.... Needless to say I didn't renew...
That said the current helmet law has some bs about what a helmet is - there is no approved list - it, the law, says something about "standards established by the Administrator" IIRC... WTF... It's like the assault gun ban - it it looks like a helmet then it is one, or worse if you stick a manufacturing label on something that says "motorcycle helmet" and TADA it is one... As with the assult ban - where i'd be ok if an assault weapon was defined by something realistic - like # of bullets it can hold, and rate of fire... I'd be ok with a helmet law if it was based on crash stats where it adheres to some standard (I don't know ... like DOT or SNell).. However, as Skinny Dicks Chrome Polished Spike WWII Helmet maker doesn't meet ANY standard - they don't want to take away the revenue from these outfits (sigh)..
I am not a fan of nanny govt - but we have things like seat belt laws... The killer is that seat belts must meet certain criteria, and should it be determined that they didn't hold up in a crach properly the manufacturer can be sued if it fails... If the same thing applied to helmets - ie - where they had criteria and the manufactuer could be sued, I would suspect 80% of allot of helmet companies would stop making helmets, and they would cost ALLOT of $$ - and there would be expiration dates on them... This would suck. So as the law sucks, and it can't really be changed - why are we spending time putting a law on the books that doesn't add up to hill of beans...
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I don't want helmet laws - but Im in the AGATT crowd.... That said - ABATE imho does more harm that good for motorcycle images unless they changed their events... In the mid 90s when I started riding (I'm old
) the prime spot to hang out at their events was the "BEER" truck.... The joke at the time was ABATE stood for Alcoholic Beverages At The Event.... Needless to say I didn't renew...That said the current helmet law has some bs about what a helmet is - there is no approved list - it, the law, says something about "standards established by the Administrator" IIRC... WTF... It's like the assault gun ban - it it looks like a helmet then it is one, or worse if you stick a manufacturing label on something that says "motorcycle helmet" and TADA it is one... As with the assult ban - where i'd be ok if an assault weapon was defined by something realistic - like # of bullets it can hold, and rate of fire... I'd be ok with a helmet law if it was based on crash stats where it adheres to some standard (I don't know ... like DOT or SNell).. However, as Skinny Dicks Chrome Polished Spike WWII Helmet maker doesn't meet ANY standard - they don't want to take away the revenue from these outfits (sigh)..
I am not a fan of nanny govt - but we have things like seat belt laws... The killer is that seat belts must meet certain criteria, and should it be determined that they didn't hold up in a crach properly the manufacturer can be sued if it fails... If the same thing applied to helmets - ie - where they had criteria and the manufactuer could be sued, I would suspect 80% of allot of helmet companies would stop making helmets, and they would cost ALLOT of $$ - and there would be expiration dates on them... This would suck. So as the law sucks, and it can't really be changed - why are we spending time putting a law on the books that doesn't add up to hill of beans...
/rant off
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I feel the same way about helmets as I do seatbelts. I hate when government protects people from themselves, but I also hate paying high insurance rates. Heaven forbid, but I'd hate to be involved in an accident that was my fault and cause serious injury or death to another person which could have been prevented or lessened by a helmet or seatbelt. It would make me crazy mad to have some astronomical claim against my insurance due to someone elses poor choices. It's a catch twentytwo in my opinion. I'm torn on the subject. I believe too many idiots are saved nowadays that should have killed themselves off and removed themselves from the genepool, yet we protect and save them. However, I wouldn't want to be put in a situation where I was the one to pay for their stupidity.